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Proman said " Have you had a look at your postings lately,virtually every post is attacking somebody or something?" Leaving out this morning on this bb here's my last few posts: "Lol @ downbutnotout. Down indeed! Very poor effort at misinformation." On the Tullow board to a guy who tried to de-ramp a share with complete misinformation. It was light-hearted and did not get a reply as one wasn't required. "True that." Yesterday on the UKOG bb me agreeing with a poster who said something positive about there being plenty of wells still to be drilled (I'm hated on that bb by the numerous rampers because I'm just not positive enough for them). "How did you get in at .7? The sp has not been down at .7 since mid-June. On 7th July you said you got back in at .98. Just curious." MSMN bb asking a question about a very dubious claim for which I got a hilariously wrong reply and did not bother replying myself. My post got 4 recommendations from other posters as it was painfully obvious what the poster was doing. On Sunday I made 3 or 4 posts on the UKOG thread that would be very problematic for any rampers but especially for the ramper I was addressing. I suggest people read the thread to understand. So there you are, proman. I have left out only posts on this bb. That said I'm sure if you go back further you will see me being congratulatory, calling a poster out for bs-ing like I did with you, being very negative, being very positive, loving a company but maybe not liking an aspect of said company (not good enough for the rampers) ...and so on. You'll also see me apologising for being wrong about someone, or something. You'll also see me being relentless against both rampers and de-rampers and having nothing but praise for people who tell the truth. One thing you will never, ever find is me being dishonest. Mistakes? Sure, sometimes but I try to address those if I see them. Anyway, as predicted you came back at me with one of the responses I already made for you. Remember I used the word 'noble' as one of the responses I usually get?. You chose 'hero' sarcastically. You can call me out if you think me calling a liar a liar is 'rude' or an 'attack'. Eh, it's not - it's the truth if the person has been proved to be a liar. I have never called you a liar. You just seem to have tremendous difficulty with two things: interpreting the written word, and realising that every argument you've made (me being bullish, what Hybridian said, my posting history) are all there in typed English and whilst you have terrible trouble interpreting English, others don't. The rest of your argument are insults dressed up in sarcasm simply because you interpreted 'sp appreciation' to be a 're-rate'. I don't expect any support on this board from normal people (rampers always support their fellow ramper whilst de-rampers hate me anyway, LOL) but I sense anyone reading this knows who is right and who is wrong. Busy
What Hybridian said (our own broker) regarding s appreciation: "With further drill results to come, there remains potential short term catalysts for share price appreciation. " Your (mis) interpretation of the same sentence: "Potential for near term rerate also mentioned." Everyone agrees that brokers who issue reports on company they are actually the broker for, are usually to be taken with a pinch of salt. Hybridian would have used the word 're-rate' if that's what they wanted to say. Or are you suggesting our brokers are incompetent (given that 'sp appreciation' would be considerably less than a 're-rate' out here in the non-ramping world)? You have not addressed how supportive you were of what you (yet again) incorrectly referred to as my bad manners and anger in the past, when you thought I was 'on your side'. My attitude was encouraged by you then. You looked back at my recent posts, and yet never commented on the number of times I have dropped into the bbs of shares I'm not invested in to congratulate investors on big sp rises? Kinda selective just to pick on what you call my 'rude' posts (which are all aimed at dishonest people, liars, rampers, charlatans etc). Note I keep referring to you as 'misinterpreting' our broker's report, not lying. Ignore all the previous and just reflect on these points: Do you think Hybridian made a mistake using 'appreciation' rather than 're-rate'? 9It's a rhetorical question because of course they did not make a mistake as if they thought a re-rate was coming rather a short-term appreciation, they would have said that. From day one on this bb I was never bullish. Nor was I bearish. I had problems with rampers pretty much from day one. Later on I had problems with de-rampers. I tackled them both head on with no support from anyone else on this board (kind of expected people to be better than that but have learned my lesson). The thing is I will not sit by and watch people ramp up a share with a view to encouraging naive investors to part with their money nor will I not sit by and watch people de-ramp a share with a view to encouraging naive investors to lose out on a potential winner. What do rampers and de-rampers have in common? They're both lying barstewards. I hate dishonesty. I'll reply to my own post above to save you (and others - the ramper always gets more support than the honest guy) the bother: "Aww poor Kev, always the victim. Looking to get in at a lower price. Very noble, eh? Very angry. Look at that for a rant. Time for Mammy to bring silly Kev to school." And so on ad nauseum. Yet what always gets lost in the sarcasm and recriminations is that I'm the one telling the truth. LOL. Luckily for me I do not take this seriously - I'd be dead reading to all the spoofery.
Hehe proman - "anger". Funny how my rudeness and anger didnt bother you when it was being used for something you approved of, both here and other websites. Lol. Hypocrite much? Anyway, I've seen you do the old "you're angry, you're losing so much, you're rude, I'm so polite" bs on other people before. Tip: argue the facts about CGNR (which I'll do shortly now that you've put the nail in the coffin of any remaining hope I had.) Toodles.
I just read the RNS. I don't even read them first thing in the morning anymore - they're sall the bloody same. Sorry guys but this is just another load of waffle - a study confirming a test at a location that has been tested to bits. I wonder will we get an interview now. I understand these tests and studies must be done but for how much longer. You could literally change the location, measurements and leave the Prof's comments the same, and.it's just same.old, same old. Even the rampers gave.up (well, the new ones) lol. My hope is that some huge company want to buy us out but have insisted.that CGNR carry out scores of tests before they'll buy! Also, even though it's most likely the MTR influence, it's nice to see the company actually imparting information to its owners on a more regular basis.
Proman, I'm not even remotely bothered by the sp as I've long resigned myself to losing every penny I invested in CGNR. Any improvement from these appalling levels is a bonus. My issue is the way we are treated by the bod, and its persistent silly RNSs usually followed by a superduper interview. An sp appreciation is not a re-rate and if you think I'll let you mislead any potential investors by repeating that I'll continue to politely point that out. An sp appreciation could be 1% or 5% - definitely not rerates. An appreciation of 100% would be a rerate but the words "sp appreciation" definitely do not mean a rerare as you stated the broker said there would be. Thanks for acknowledging (not apologising) that you were wrong about me being bullish this time last year. An apology rather than.a stuttering explanation might have been more gentlemanly but whatever.. Please don't go down the whiny road of "I've always been polite..". Believe me when I say that because of your past politeness I am holding back bigtime on what I really want to say. Let's leave it at that.
Proman, I think you are confusing my defence of CGNR, and the Prof in particular, with me being bullish. I defended both against lies. I do not like dishonesty. Now I find you misinterpreting our own broker's report to imply they stated a re-rate was imminent - they didn't, end of story. Furthermore, you're now trying to say I was very bullish this time last year. The closest posts to a year ago which I made on this bb was this: "I tried that some time ago. I got no reply and rang their contact number. I was fobbed off. I persisted (remaining polite all the time) and I eventually got a very terse reply stating that any business news must be related to shareholders by RNS. I apologised for annoying them whilst mentioning that numerous other investors get replies from numerous other companies. It was an unpleasant experience. I posted all the correspondence here and I just had a quick look for it but I could not find it. That said, I agree that we should all continue to contact them. I have cited 2016/2017 as important years for a long time now - I still think that. But I think at this stage we need to hear some news if even only out of courtesy. I have suggested that I thought more relevant news would come in Q415 and/or Q116" That was on July 28th 2015. I had been complaining about the lack of communication from the company for months by then. Again, if you choose to interpret that post as being bullish then maybe you should look at how you interpret others' written words. For the record (again) and so there is no confusion on how I stand: CGNR has the gold and has had for years. We need a time-frame of activities regardless of what news is coming (JV, sell-off, actually mining the gold etc). I still think something has to happen between now and H217 - it has been slow moving in terms of giving us definitive schedules as opposed to constant "wonderful" test results. That said the most annoying thing about CGNR is the contempt the shareholder is held in by the bod. The only reason we have been getting a few RNSs recently is because of MTR. I think that's an awful indictment on the company and Professor Conroy. It's disgraceful the way we are treated.
Proman, I think you're beginning to embarrass yourself. If I'm down around 85% you must be down more, and yet you continue to come out with the same rubbish. You can twist the words of the broker note all you like. An "sp appreciation" or any other term used in that report indicates a re-rate. People can read. I have no doubts there'll be up days but that's not going to help long-term holders. Like you said, theres nothing we can do as the bod ignore all efforts to contact them.
Proman, if you find this acceptable: " I have tried to talk to the company and got nowhere,as have many others. They are in lockdown and not talking to investors." then you're right. There's nothing we can do. That was my last effort to at least try to get something done. I see now there is simply no point in even trying to contact the company of which we are part-owners. I sincerely hope that not only the CGNR bod see this but that the MTR bod do too. (I know other companies have acknowledged seeing these discussion boards and others.)
...on my part to try to get CGNR longterm holders to actually do something other than watch the bod reduce the value of each of our holdings pretty much on a six monthly basis (if we were lucky enough to get updates every six months in the past). Every few months that pass the value of our holdings become smaller and smaller while the bod's wages have NEVER been negatively affected. I understand that certain 'loyalists' (who must be losing a fortune) won't agree that this is a load of nonsense. I even get that one or two will try to get this post removed. I have, and will not, say anything libellous about CGNR but the facts speak for themselves. MTR invest in shyte companies which are usually on their last legs. I get their idea and think it's a good idea to take risks with numerous companies that are going nowhere BUT MIGHT end up being a multi-bagger. With enough risks they might succeed and good luck to them but don't think they invested here because they saw something wonderful. The now departed rampers have made their money and good luck to them too. They didn't play fairly or honestly but karma will eventually be a female dog. (One in particular might visit now and then to validate his ramping bs but that's only because he has other bbs to exploit. Trust me, I've experienced him elsewhere.) I suggest lths email the bod and MTR directly (the CGNR contact area on their website is completely and utterly useless and, as usual, ignored. Ringing CGNR's office has resulted (when I eventually got an answer) in an arrogant, hostile response to me in the past - maybe that's changed but I doubt it. Emailing them directly has also led to pompous arrogance. I posted their replies here 12/18 months ago and not one lth found anything wrong with CGNR's contemptuous reply to my polite enquiries. Bottom line is this: find a way of contacting them personally via email at least. I'm losing around 85% of my investment so I don't expect anything and that's fine with me but I simply refuse to stand by and watch others be sucked in to a company that proudly refuses to offer a timeline /forecast/prediction of anything at all, as long as its bod (a close knit FAMILY in some cases) continues to be paid handsomely. I offer no email addies or phone numbers. If you give a toss find them yourselves. Otherwise let the milking continue.
See if you're chilling after years of tests! And if you are years here I'd like some of what you're using to chill. Lol. Seriously though, I've pretty much given up on the sp rising here without a jv Or complete sell off. Everything else is just noise.
More tests, more 'great' results, more wages for the bod, still no news on commercialising, still no plan with a time-frame, still flattering to deceive. On a positive note, we have had more RNSs in the last few months than in the last few years combined. Must be part of the MTR investment deal. Sp to rise again before inevitable fall again. Gotta love CGNR!
Some day one of my investments will go up over 20%. Well done you guys.
Agreed sercher70. When I last did a detailed mathematical check I was down over 90% - I think I'm down around 70/80% now. I always expected nothing until 2016/17 but (and I've said the same thing on ADVFN) we need a time-frame. It's no use the Prof continuously giving mega-positive interviews while CGNR test the bejesus out of every square inch of their licence. It's coming to the stage where CGNR either get a partner, JV, sell up or mine the gold. At worst, we need to know WHEN things are going to happen.