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It is far easier to day trade when you're up.
I know what you mean tho if feels 10 times riskier when your down, you know that one day it will go back up and you don,t want to miss the boat when it does and when you take the risk and it goes south the fear of missing the rise is too much.
I have in the past held Barc from 213 down to 155 very painful took many trades to get back up since mid-2017 from 30+% down on Barc 2017/2018 to now being up a lot.
and even worst in the financial crash, I held RBS from 65 down to 12 that nearly destroyed my funds lucky it did,t stay at 12p very long and over many many trades got 96% of the fund back before I quit.
Sold everything this morning AV 252 down 5% Barc 103.50 RBS 115.50 both up near 10% total fund up 2%
I'm tempted to go back into AV
If you look at the average price over the last 5 years, I think we looking at a 99.99% chance will going to make money over the next few years, not even counting the 13% dividends when they restart.
Everything passes in time just need to be in at a price that you are happy with.
I don,t think the deaths will be a big issue and the business cover seems to be rather limited from what others have said on the wording of Aviva contracts.
I am no expert on insurances but
If for argument sake a huge recession causes lots of life insurance policies to get canceled due to affordability and other policies would the 180% coverage go through the roof due to less liability?
It looks like a positive day unless the USA job report turns it negative.
https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/04/08/business/ap-us-virus-outbreak-job-market-snapshot.html
You can,t rule out gut feeling, half of it is numbers and half of it is understanding how you thinking what everyone else is going to do.
I am tempted 50/50 at the moment to go back in, but I am all so thinking about the USA weekly job figures tomorrow I think I need to check dates, and even tho the last 2 weeks the USA markets went up after the job reports.
I have got the feeling it will not happen this time.
Plus you have easter holiday good Friday 3-4 days of bad news. unless the death rates go down but I think in the USA things are going to get worst tho the EU might get better.
could go either way but I think the USA news will have more impact than the better news from the EU.
So I'm guessing Thursday could be bad.
Unless the EU pulls out a new bailout plan or trump does something new.
My gut says to wait but my trigger finger has the buy button ready on the screen.
Hi finding the right/start price is always going to be a 50/50 call.
If you're going long it not going to matter just don,t panic sells if it goes down, unless you think the company is in trouble or your lucky enough to buy back in at a lower price, which many people do and many get caught on the wrong side of the share price.
How many people in 2008/9 sold and regret selling to early to see their old stock go up 3 fold.
Read the chat's but Everyone has to make their own judgment.
People that own the shares will most likely have a positive post on here.
People that don,t own shares will most likely be the negative posters on here.
I went all in on BARC on Friday Was going to go long with hsbc but changed by mind .
why did I do it? In 6 months or. 1 or 2 or even 5+years this share price is going to go back to 160 or even 230+ In time .
Risk v rewards.
Is BARC going to go bust unlikely
Can this double your money in time yes while paying a 10% + return in time .
Will this go lower very possible , hope not tho .
It an entry point I can be happy with and just leave and watch.
GL all
On the some what good side if things go really bad.
If there are losses they will have extra 13 billion to cover it .
If hsbc get through this fairly well they will be even stronger with that 13 billion .
We Can not change what has happened but maybe 2021 will be great ,
Hi spikeyj what makes you think this, the last 4 years profits would cover the current dividend. a lot of cash 160% to 175% coverage I'm guessing.
People may die from this virus but sadly most of these people already had underlining health issues ect.
I know they got a chunk of debt.
I'm always eager to hear a viewpoint to extend my lack of knowledge.
My honest opinion is I like card before the virus but now tho it got to be looking at between 2 to 4 million per month losses while the stores are closed. could even be a lot higher inc possible 80% wages cover and 2 million a month cover for stores
I'm surprised this has not gone down 70%
it has become a risky buy but if it pulls through could be great returns
The EU and the world are very likely to go into a horrid recession before this virus is over.
China sells a huge amount of steel and products to the world.
no matter how well China is doing China is a trader they buy stuff to make stuff to sell stuff but what is going to happen to commodities prices when the rest of the world stops buying Chinese products.
Let not forget that we are only human and we hold grudges even tho money is money if this virus goes really badly in the USA and EU there will be a blaming game and the finger will be pointed at china with 0 goodwill. that could make future trade harder for the Chinese. as it is looking more likely day by day that the Chinese numbers for infection were pulled out of the sky.
Do I believe we going to go back down to 12p no the debt is way lower now.
Do I believe we have hit the bottom yet no
Trading update 13 jan Net debt as of 31 December 2019 was approximately US$282M (31 December 2018: US$340M). The Group's cash balance as of 31 December 2019 was approximately US$131M (31 December 2018: US$62M).
and
six months ended 30 June 2019 Net debt A reduced to US$282 million (31 December 2018: US$339 million).
Either there a mistake with the wording of net debt or net debt is the same and a lot of reinvestment has happened because that shows no drop in debt even with dividends paid with the very high iron ore prices the company should raking it in.
With out sounding like mr negative I think If I was holding shares that had gone up 10% my finger would be on the sale button.
What I would say is ask your self in 1 week or 2 weeks times is the SP going to be higher or lower than now. I’m thinking lower only time will tell.
It feels like heard mentality TUI is up 14% yet I don,t know anyone since all this started to look bad booking an holiday abroad.
SAGA. Up 10% those cruise ships are going to cost a fortune to keep running empty.
Airlines up yet plans are landing with very few people on board.
Seems like a lot of people are jumping on the band wagon..
A lot of people are going to make money today will it fade of during the afternoon and will it hold as more bad news comes out , I don’t ,t think the market has become immune to the virus yet