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Gix
I guess it's looking like Veggie caps are no more - I wonder if they shall replace them with a FFII version.
The thing that is notable is how cheap, the caps were when compared with other FF formulations out there
90 caps, 2 caps a day, 45 days for a tenner.
https://www.swansonvitamins.com/q?kw=fruitflow
W$
Maybe, and I am just guessing, FF1 is not available to buy anymore?????
Swanson FF was available in many countries around the world so it must have been selling.
Yes the 90 caps were cheap but it should be 3 a day so a months supply.
There are cheap FF2 products on the market as well. Take Zaax. 36.66 Polish Zloty for a months supply or about £6.50
https://aptekamedkon.pl/8255-zaax-kaps-30-kaps.html
Just might not be as cheap once you have imported them to the UK though.
Thx Gixer
I think including Omega3 in our only product was driven by DSM . With their control gone and with a greater supply we should see the cost of a daily dose of FF drop significantly if a FF+FA were available here
I didn't appreciate Zaax was so cheap. Hopefully FF+FA could be as low as £7.5 here, £3 in China ?
W$
(I think I still have one of the first packs of Swanson's bought when Sirco had run out)
Not sure what you're driving at W$?
Is it that you thing Omega 3 isn't a good pairing for FF?
Appreciate that an increase in production can lead to cost savings, if the demand is there, but FF + Omega 3 seems to be a double benefit, so not sure why you'd suggest we would go another way
BB
Omega 3 adds unnecessary costs to getting a daily dose of FF. Other supplements (e.g. circulease, BPF) combine with other ingredients - nothing wrong with that if that's what the consumer want. From experience the FF+O3 gobstopper (not my words) has put people off taking it.
imho O3 was added to FF+ because DSM had just bought an O3 company and they wanted to create a new market. The whole philosophy for the FF+ brand was that it would be FF+ plus lots of other combinations which simply didn't materialize yet. Contrast FF+ this to the offerings FlyFit have
FF success is all about numbers, a million daily users would be transformational (##) to us. To achieve this we need FF in a variety of formats in as many jurisdictions as possible, as cheaply as possible. A fiver a month should be an achievable target . Personally am looking forward to having it available in fizzy tablet form and getting back to a having taking FF as part of a daily ritual at a mealtime.
With DSM's shackles off I, like many, have high expectations of IF to deliver the business. We have enough studies/patents/collaborations/boy scout badges in place now to deliver. I'm confident he will. I'm interpreting the dropping of the veggie caps as part of the delivery plan.
Ramble over, just getting impatient.
W$
have a good Sunday
I can see what you're saying Welly, but, if a consumer wants to take O3, which after all has a much more established profile as a health supplement, they would have to take two tabs if they also wanted to take Fruitflow. If you compare the current capsule to the Swanson capsule, I don't believe you can accurately describe it as a gobstopper. I also take plant sterols from Healthspan, and they're roughly double the size of a Fruitflow+ O3 capsule.
Another point, which hasn't been discussed for a long time, is whether Provexis have to use Fruitflow as the headline brand for a future product. I've always thought it a bit clunky. Just saying.
alf
what yer thinking ? Lucozade + FF, Yakult + FF, Nescafe+FF, Punk IPA+FF ??
Wellies
Linking the specific health benefit to an established brand name would be the decision of that brand owner. For Provexis, the question is whether Fruitflow portrays the plethora of health benefits established and/or under further study ?
To add an additional marketing name wouldn't be feasible cost wise right now, but surely some creative people could arrive at an image with broader appeal once funds allow.
Only a thought process at this stage, of course.