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Just looking through the message board and it looks like there's only 5 or 6 posters got anything to say / add.
Surely must be some others that can have some input just to freshen things up a bit, who knows, might even highlight something that the 6 have missed lol.
No it will be 0.5p next week 2p next week pure guesswork rubbish. Structured, sensible posts only please.
A real change in topic, one thing I don’t understand as it all happened before my time with investing in PHE I started investing just before covid,
With the white family having all these shares, Howard sold loads of his own as he was saying fill your boots (which I don’t understand) then in my opinion jumped ship to HUI and now HUIs stopped mentioning PHE as much, all of a sudden they have there own technology now which no1 knows about or how close it is to our technology, if he was that involved with PHE I’m guessing it’s very very similar, why did he not just try help PHE get the technology up and running?
That's a good question sykes, which I've absolutely no idea as to the correct answer.
Can only guess that he was selling while telling others to "fill their boots" in order to maximise his return.
Will his utopia outfit have similar tech? There is a joint venture where at a previous presentation Paul and their spokesperson said they had not decided yet what tech would be used.
You'd assume that everyone who is on the same road will be using similar tech, however phe does have the patent and euro grant in the pipeline so perhaps have a head start, and if all goes to plan at the pilot plant will be looked upon favourably by potential customers.
Why did Howard not just continue along with the phe guys? I've no idea. That would be good if someone could offer a known reason.
Although the whites have a large share holding, you'd think that they would rather sell for 2p than 1p, so if it's them selling why now, why not then and why not wait until nearer validation time.
Probably many reasons as to why all the above points. Doubt anyone has the factual answer from the horses mouth though.
Hi Scooby
I'll try to freshen things up.
I've just googled the address for United Hydrogen. I put in 15 Lime Street, Sydney, and it was described as being a house.
I then googled suite 409, 15 Lime Street, Sydney, and it came back as being the head office for Patriot Hydrogen, one of the companies under the United Hydrogen umbrella.
I then went onto the United Hydrogen website and clicked on the link to see what Patriot Hydrogen are into.
It's worth a look.
“ Patriot Hydrogen is developing a modular, off-the-shelf pyrolysis systems that takes waste biomass and converts it into clean energy.
The 100% renewable model involves slowly heating biomass in an oxygen-free chamber without burning it, meaning there is no carbon being polluted into the atmosphere.
Their technology can be custom-fit to provide tailored solutions for the energy challenges of potential clients.
The decentralised hydrogen production units turn their clients’ waste into five high-value revenue streams — syngas (dense hydrogen) for fuel or generating electricity into the grid, biochar, carbon credits and wood vinegar for fertiliser.
With proven market demand, the Patriot Units are scalable across a wide range of industries looking to transition from ageing diesel and other fossil fuel-generated power facilities.”
15 Lime Street.
Don't look for a conspiracy in that address as there isn't one.
Yup, similar 15 lives. Not seen phe mention biochar?, wondering if that's because phe are going for a revolving kiln?
Can recall something being said about a revolving kiln not needing stopped to clean out? Would that perhaps be the biochar bit?
Have phe looked at things and rather a continuous self powering process with the output being purely energy as opposed to what patriot talk about with the biochar.
With the framework agreement between phe and NH (under the same umbrella as patriot) you'd think they would have been steered towards what was best for them.
Suppose there will be lots of businesses looking at waste to energy, room in the planet for them all I guess. Like choosing a car maybe. What exactly are you needing, hatch, boot, 4 doors, estate, fwd, hybrid, electric, petrol, diesel, convetable or hard top. Interesting share 15
15 Lime Street
Leased on the 23rd Dec 23.
133 Mtrs Shoe Box
Too cryptic for me Patx.
A rented property, I'm shocked (not) was expecting UHL to be working out of the opera house with staff enjoying the views of Harbour Bridge.
Can you explain your point for those of us who have not been through private investigator school.
Hi Scooby,
I agree. A lot of noise on here which is entertaining at the least but very very speculative. That being said the investment as a whole is very speculative, massive risk but great potential for reward. Issues surrounding kilns, pricing, supply chain and not to mention being at the beck and call of the client for future projects. I initially invested due to owning a central heating business and realising that at the time it was looking like we would use hydrogen to heat our homes (still a possibility but probably not), manufacturers had designed pure hydrogen boilers, the trails that’s were taking place… then the business model changed regarding royalties moving forward and in all honesty no one has the answers to how much this will net powerhouse moving forward… there are no figures hence why I believe the share price is so low. I was looking at this for a 5-10 year investment and to be honest I do slightly regret not selling my investment to buy back in at what they are now, as I was 28k up at its peak…
I will be purchasing more but I do feel like until a clear plan with numbers and monies exchanged takes place, we will see sideways movement. 70% jumps in a day is not normal so I wouldn’t be stressed about the fall back. I initially thought it would drop back to a Penny after the huge rally.
It’s all a bit vague at the minute, potential projects and good news surrounding the business but currently nothing set in stone. Until money is exchanged and real contracts made, nothing is certain in life, other than death and taxes. Even the kiln is questionable, I’m sure I made a clay pepper in year 11 art in something not much smaller ;D
It’s leased, is 133 sq mtrs floor space. Was expecting something more than that.
Have a look for yourself
https://www.realcommercial.com.au/leased/property-15-lime-street-sydney-nsw-2000-504445412
Ah, I see Patx.
Suppose an office only needs to be big enough for a few work stations, a meeting table, toilet and coffee machine lol.
At the end of the day it's a central business address, in these times of working from home I'm surprised it's actually so grand, must cost a bit to rent in Sydney city lol
I've alrrsdy looked last week after the UHL link surfaced.
Google map street view a great invention.
We have a framework agreement from a pokey little office. Not what most of us thought is it ?
Yup each to, lots to contemplate. Until we've got some figures then trying to value anything is pretty much impossible.
Ps, if you think the kiln is close to your year 11 art class clay model, I'll not be getting you to fix my heating lol.
National Hydrogen mention have a market for selling on Biochar, presumably others will
https://nationalh2.com.au/biochar/#:~:text=When%20hydrogen%20is%20produced%20through,way%20back%20into%20the%20atmosphere.
I don't know what others thought. But if UHL are the conglomerate head, and NH are part of that conglomerate I'd fully expect that to be the address for correspondence etc.
They are raising funds to progress their idea/business. Phe is part of their plan, in time if everything comes together there will be sites doing what they are selling potential investors.
Nothing strange with that, in my view anyway
Wonder what the difference is between NH and Patriot then Red.
Looks to be 2 businesses offering the same thing from the same conglomerate. I'll need to have more of a look out if interest at what all UHL is covering.
UHL are doing an IPO themselves, which muddies the waters even more about the NH2 financing; are they going to finance it themselves? I felt Williams looked on edge / guilty during the interview posted on here.
Might have been nerves and I am wary of how some city types make money out companies. Take SYME as an example, some on here may know it well, seems as corrupt as hell!
You can register for company and IPO info here, which might be of interest regarding UHL's plans. Seems they have will excluded castle from participating in it.
https://unitedhydrogenlimited.com/register-your-investment-interest/
Scooby
I'm not going to pretend my knowledge of PHE's revolving kiln extends to knowing about its association with biochar or not. So unfortunately I can't answer your question. There are other and better posters than me who can answer the intricacies of PHE technology.
I'm more focussed on the bigger picture which, if I'm honest, I'm more wary of now than I was this morning. The concerns I've had about the National Hydrogen tie in, and which I've been questioning on here now for the past few weeks, seem ever more relevant tonight.
Hopefully, someone with a good insight into the specifications of PHE technology and also that of Patriot Hydrogen can assuage any concerns about National Hydrogen going with their technology.
I can't help but feel Emmitt is being kept in the dark here. This is the downside of the chosen business model we now have: waiting on others to feed us information.
Another £79k sell on the board last thing. This stinks.
Maybe it's just me, but if there are no relevant new facts, only private opinions without background are posted here. That has no added value for anyone. It's not a problem if nothing is written in a forum for a while. And especially not if there is nothing important to write.
Nobody can influence any stock price through posts in a forum!
Well said, Jancux
Can't remember who, but someone posted a while back that the "seller" was not connected to the recent warrants.
Been a gradual fall since they were added to the market however, wondering if that is actually what's going on here as they are cashed in?
Does anyone know how this can be found out?
J