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If your buying at this price, might as well just put £50-£500 on and forget about it for 12 months. Thats what this stock is now a 50/50 bet, cannot trust naheed and her placings and funding issues, either company goes bankrupt/de-lists or share price multibags.
The company it self has many exciting projects coming next 1-5 years. Billionaires Shiekh owns 70% with green hydrogen project looking the most promising. They will want this company to do well, they do not invest and own that much in a company that are rubbish or take a very long time to do things.
If different projects and funding works out even with placings, this is multibagging many hundreds or thousands times 1-5 years time. Thats if they have not gone bankrupt or de-listed by then
AIM anything is possible look at HE1 multibagged 1000% was great for the market and liquidity. You have to buy at the right times and you got to be in it to win it. If thats holding long time, day trading whatever you do, just do not invest on emotion or money you cannot lose.
I'm sticking by 250k raised this month at a price of 0.02. This mornings RNS just further flags it for anyone who can't read a cash flow.
If your strategy is bizarrely buy and hold at least wait for the raise to hit...
Just to illustrate the lunacy of buy and hold on aim shares like this. If you "invested" £1k.
Losses in 6 months 72% so down to 280.
Losses in 1 year 86% so down to 140.
Losses in 5 years 96% so down to 40
Losses since inception 99.78% so down to 2 quid.
Jstar I understand that and as you said maybe wait for another raise/placing. Like i said cant trust naheed and her lies.
However promising projects and multibagging potential unless de-listed or bankrupt its worth a small buy at these levels for a pump even.
E.g invest £50 at 0.2p and if any good news comes and it goes to 0.3p-0.4p you doubled your money. If it goes to 0.1p then average down buy another £50-£100 and wait for pump or a rise.
If you just hold and forget about it for 1-4 years, if the green hydrogen project or other projects are going ahead, if major funding comes then its multibagging. That £50 quid or averaged down £150 turns into £500,£1000, £2000 whatever the true price and potential of this stock is.
Buying small amounts you wont even care about and probably forget, then come back couple years and you got some nice holiday money, or food/gas for a year. Its like free money the way I see it, 50/50 chance.
Unfortunately I agree with JSTAR here, some companies have the ability to let you buy and hold, Oracle isn’t one of those. I’ve never seen a share price decimated time and time and time again, for the trend to continue
With Naheeds lack of Communication surrounding anything of substance with GH, combined with her inability to negotiate and secure a decent fundraise, those who buy in now, could quite easily find themselves 50% down in no time. Some companies have the ability to drip feed shareholders something of value from time to time to keep the shareholders, and share price at bay, we don’t have that here
I’m 90% down in over 2 years and that gulf looks set to widen further. Some new PI’s may make money in the future. I wouldn’t consider myself an OG Long term holder and even I would need a parabolic run of 2000-3000%, just to break even. Which AIM company last did yet and how did they achieve it ?
My only blessing here now I’ve lost thousands, I can pick up MILLLLLIONS of these things for penny’s now and it can somewhat lower my average, but I won’t be breaking the bank to do so
If you want new investment Naheed, come out and tell them exactly what they’re investing into and what the future holds. We’ll get behind the company but you have to make us believe.
I do understand the optimism here. I was the big optimist 2 years ago but losing nearly all of your investment, surprisingly wiped that out of me
Ralladw2 - that's easy to consider with the fresh eyes of a newcomer to ORCP who hasn't lost a small fortune and been misled over a number of years......perhaps if I hadn't invested here before and had no experience of the woman in charge I'd take a punt.
Agree AG, what is the incentive of buying and holding? Lack of timelines is no help to anyone. You just need pure luck to turn your investment in to profit here by timing your buy in perfectly.
Yeah exactly. I mean it’s not like your actually your asking for the world, you want timelines.
The big one will be project revenue. If the projected CAPEX is going to be around £3Billion, your revenues would presumably trump this number. It could bring in £300-£400m per annum for a 20+ year lifespan. And Oracle in some way or other are going to recieve their pound of flesh. Or a “premium” for our work in the development. Tell us what !!! Even that alone could be a lucrative one off payment. Give us a clue haha, something to get excited about holding in the future.
I’ve never witnessed a company I’ve invested in go bust, and I don’t wish to see that in any form here. But if we’re going to reap our rewards in 2-3 years from now, im getting extra worried about bridging the gap between now and then with the rate of dilution we’ve witnessed and share price implosion.
What it takes a while to work out is companies like ORCP don't actually care about private investors or anyone buying on the open market. All they care about is those insiders who take place in the fund raisers.
You have worked out you need "great luck" to time it... But odds are firmly stacked in the favour of those insiders with the warrants attached. And yes before punting they are brought inside and told all the expeceted RNSs to come out in the next few weeks post raise....
I bought in a couple of years ago for Thar and like many of you, I'm seriously down on this one. I currently own 10M shares and am down over £20k.
We always knew we would be in for a long haul and that there would be a possibility of the sp dropping for a while, but this has got far worse than I ever expected it to. I've tried to stay positive and am still giving it my best shot, but it is only because it is now at the point where there is absolutely no point selling at this level.
There is no way I'm going to be buying into this any further.
I agree with all of you, as i said worth a small punt for a new investor but not anyone else. Unless you got money and believe in this company's future.
This is a long term stock with huge multibagging potential next few years if projects and funds work.
Unless the stock has gone bankrupt/admin, the worst scenario for share price is 0.1p. Which this is basically near. Even with a lying and inept management, still owned by billionaires so some kind of positive.
For old investors stuck 1p+ or even those stuck at 0.8p-0.20p the past 1 year. It has crashed so much now its valued as nothing by the market, with poor financials.
Of course you cant sell, average down, or willing to add more and are very angry. Hope you all get your money back and do not sell for a loss no point, do not let them win.
It’s near 0.01p not 0.1p.
Amatra, there is a reason why anyone would buy 10 million shares in a company with historically poor financials, no income stream, very little in terms of tangible assets, in a country renowned for corruption and tribal rivalries…. It’s called greed!…I’m not knocking it!… but it does mean that the belief that you are so sure that your poor research and non existent due diligence does not matter. Your conviction that this is the stock that will make you unimaginable rich in exchange for a few grand is absolute!…most of us have been there, the trick is to learn, not just about the markets but also about yourself!…for me, it was understanding that I am a gambler but I had to become a smarter gambler rather than an impulse gambler chasing unachievable and unlikely jackpots!…no offence intended! 👍